Saints Row 2

Development Info Prototype Info Prerelease Info Notes Bugs

Downloadable Content#

Ultor Exposed"I know about some things that Ultor wants to keep buried." Corporate Warfare"Dex wants to make his move tonight. Together, we can stop him."

Resources#

Unused Mission-Related Text and AudioMore forgotten unfinished business. Activities and DiversionsOther ways to wreak havoc and make it to the top. Unused AudioLess unheard sounds this time around. Unused GraphicsNew stuff, except with Saints Row 1.5 leftovers. Unused TextSP text blah Unused LocationsWay more hidden than The Pyramid. Development OversightsHidden beneath the cracks of the earthquake. OdditiesMore than just hidden secrets... Saints Row LeftoversStuff that got lost within Stilwater's mass gentrification. Regional DifferencesWir bitten um Verzeihung - sehr böse Dinge passieren hinter diesem Unterseiten!

Unused Mission Objective#

To do: There's more...merge this into Unused Mission-related content.

Watch on YouTubeIn the mission Room Service, there exists a cut objective where the player must visit the arms dealer at Sunnyvale Gardens before heading to the hotel, complete with unused dialogue. It can be failed if the dealer gets killed in any way.

Strangely, the dealer can actually be recruited as a Homie, though it uses the placeholder icon of a female caucasian gang member. The voice line also sounds quieter than the other voices in the game, meaning it was probably placeholder dialogue.

Unused Cutscene Content#

Within the files (voice_script_us.le_strings) exist unused extra subtitles for various cutscenes.

Cutscenes for Activities will not be covered in this section due to having separate voice lines.

Scrapped Prologue Cutscene?#

Marked as tss00, are three lines spoken by Julius, likely intended to take place at the very beginning of the game. Those lines are only present in the cutscene file and aren't referenced anywhere else. When asked about those lines to Steve Jaros, he couldn't remember as there were too many drafts of the story.

The voice script in the developmental leak gives the scene some context, where it shows that Julius was supposed to visit the comatose protagonist in the hospital.

For reference, The Anna Show (used as an in-game Attract Mode cinematic) is called CUTSCENE_TSSP_INTRO02, while the Vacation's Over cutscene is referred to as CUTSCENE_TSSP_INTRO2.

Check, Please#

Unused line at the end supposed to come after the protagonist runs out of TeeN'Ay.

Choices#

Unused audio descriptive subtitles.

An Amazing Quarter#

The cutscene has an unused intro according to dialogue lines.

An extra line intended to be used at the end of the cutscene:

End Game#

Strings suggesting an additional ending cutscene, likely in the same vein as the attract mode cutscene as it has the notion of switching between television channels, and the fact a brief static sound effect is heard as the helicopter flies off into the skyline.

According to the development script leak, the first four lines of dialogue were supposed to play together but it is unknown how the other fits in.

Unused Data#

Scrapped Mission#

There are two files called em02.lua and em02.cts, which comes after Revelation (em01.lua). Inside the former are placeholder lines, with a date sharing with some missions around that time.

-- em02.lua
-- SR2 mission script
-- 3/28/07


function em02_start()
    -- Start trigger is hit...the activate button was hit
    set_mission_author("Your Name Here")
end

function em02_cleanup()
    -- Cleanup mission here
end

function em02_success()
    -- Called when the mission has ended with success
    -- Unlock SWAT costume
end

The other file has the settings all commented out with "-----". There is also no mention of em02 in voice_script_us and static_us, while em01 in the former is referred to as BONUS. The incomplete state of the files and missing lines suggest that the mission was likely scrapped early in development.

Unused Property#

This needs some investigation. Discuss ideas and findings on the talk page. Specifically: Where is the property spawn point located when enabled?

Located between Company of Gyros and Leather and Lace, is an unused property called "Fangs Memories". It would have cost $5,000, had an income of $200, and would have given the player a 20% off discount. They have the "Localized_Name" category of "COSTUME_NAME", which is shared with another shop called Let's Pretend. Fangs Memories may have been an earlier version of that, or judging from the gothic name was reworked into Nobody Loves Me.

Disabled Radio Stations#

There are seven radio stations that are marked as disabled in the radio.xbtl and music.xbtl files: 101.69 Sizzurp FM, Radio Free Stilwater 87.6, The Rock FM 94.8, The Kronic 92.2, The Faction FM 99.8, WMD KBOOM 108.0, and 91.8 KPASA. All of the radio stations are left over from the previous game, with the exception of KPASA and Radio Free Stilwater 87.6. Attempting to re-enable the radio stations will crash the game due to not having any associated audio files, and all of them having a placeholder slot of "123" in the radio.xbtl folder.

91.8 KPASA was likely a radio station that would have played Latino music judging from the name, where a station like that would likely later appear as Kabron 104.2 in Saints Row: The Third. It was likely cut early in development because no songs were assigned to them in the files, and having leftover strings for weather report audio and for The Rock FM 94.8 that was present in the previous game. Radio Free Stilwater (or RFS for short) was a radio station that was supposed to appear in Saints Row, but was cut despite being listed in the manual credits.

In pause_menu.lua, only Radio Free Stilwater, Sizzurp 101.69, and WMD KBOOM 108.0 are listed, but they don't have any preview audio, which goes by "RADIO_STATION_GENRE" instead of the title of a song.

Internal Data#

Hidden Mission Credits and Dates#

Found in misc_tables_city for the Xbox 360 version or common in the Windows version contains internal names for missions, which have authors and dates of the .lua scripts.

The Gang Missions all share the same credits schemes as the individual missions, but are different for factions;

• The Sons of Samedi missions are credited as Mark Gabby and Brad Johnson, while the dates are all March 28, 2007.
• The Ronin missions are credited to Philip Alexander, while the dates are all March 28, 2007.
• The Brotherhood missions do have credits for different missions below:

Platform Differences#

To do: More...cutscene errors like the prison buses being displayed incorrectly and Beer pong.

• The three downloadable content packs were not released for Windows, Mac OS nor Linux versions. Leftovers for Corporate Warfare can be found in certain strings of those versions.
• Achievements are only available on the Xbox 360 version.
• The audio in the Windows version runs at 22050Hz, compared to 32000Hz in the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions.
• The streetlight effects are broken, where the specular lighting textures are missing.

Regional Differences#

To do: A LOT of German version changes. Also, some Japanese version changes.

Saints Row 2 dialed up the edgy nature from the previous entry, resulting in changes being made for the German and Japanese versions. Like the previous game, those versions are treated separately, with its own achievements.

Strangely, the Linux port isn't available to German players due to "issues with the source code".

German Version Changes#

To do: Cover Get a video of the edited cutscenes; the list is in this page. Check if the changed translations (kill = defeat) are also in non-German language copies of the game.

Infamously, the German version had to go through numerous cuts to ship with a USK 18 rating in Germany, leading to a lot more changes than were present in the previous game.

General Changes#

• There are only 42 Xbox 360 achievements that can be earned, compared to 50.
• The Zombie Uprising mode is completely removed.
• Human Shields are completely removed from the game, thus some of the missions are changed.
• Zombie Carlos cannot be added as a Homie, as attempting to dial the Eye for Eye Phone Number after the mission Red Asphalt will result in the generic wrong number message. The number of unlockable Homies are also stuck as 8 out of 9 as of a result, but still counts towards 100% completion.
• The Shock Paddles, unlocked with completing the Ambulance EMT Diversion can no longer be used to revive pedestrians, due to corpses disappearing instantly after death.
• Money is dropped from pedestrians after injuring them once with any sort of weapon, rather than having to kill them.
• Several Combat Tricks have been removed such as Head Shot, Multi Kill, Nut Shot, One-hit Kill, Slice 'N Dice, Taunt, and Throwing. Only one Driving Stunt was removed, which was Roadkill.

Activity and Diversion Changes#

• In Fight Club, it is no longer possible to perform a button-mashing finishing move on opponents, where simply beating them up instantly defeats them.
• Four activities have been removed: Mayhem, FUZZ, Trail Blazing, and Crowd Control. Hitman is present, unlike the previous game.
  • This makes the Flamethrower, Annihilator RPG, Kobra, Pepper Spray and Chainsaw weapons in Crib completely unobtainable.
  • The 5% and 15% Crib Customization, 5% and 15% Police Notoriety reduction, 5% and 15% Brotherhood Notoriety reduction, 5% and 15% Reduced Explosion Damage, 5% and 15% Clothing Store Discount and Infinite pistol ammo abilities are also completely unobtainable as of a result.
• The suggestive moaning sounds in the Ho-ing Diversion have been muted.

Visual Changes#

• Headshot splatters can no longer be seen when characters are shot in the head, along with the sound being removed.
• Just like the previous game, pedestrians no longer bleed on the ground when they're dead and disappear. The same also applies to blood pools introduced in this game, which don't appear.
• The unique Katana weapon finisher move animations are removed.

Cutscene Changes#

To do: Get a YouTube video showing all the censored scenes with comparison to the uncensored one.

Specific parts of cutscenes have been censored by a black screen with a message that says "We beg your pardon - very bad things happen behind this screen!" (Wir bitten um Verzeihung - sehr böse Dinge passieren hinter diesem schwarzen Bildschirm!) even though the audio can still be heard and the subtitles can still be seen. The following scenes have been changed:

• In the "Check, Please" cutscene of the "Appointed Defender" mission, the scene of Playa hitting The Brotherhood member with a broken wine glass.
• The scene of Shaundi lighting up the Loa Dust and offering Playa to smoke the substance.
• The scenes of Shaundi describing the amount of smuggled Loa Dust was also covered up.
• The scene of Mr. Sunshine's death in "Eternal Sunshine" was simply cut after the protagonist fires the last bullet on him.

Japanese Version Changes#

To do: Different license plate font, due to different debug text.

This version isn't as bad as the German one, but there's still some changes that were made. Most of them are not present in the Windows/Linux/Mac version.

• Due to CERO rating legislations regarding nudity in video games, all instances of nudity have been removed despite already having a mosaic blur.
  • The player cannot remove underwear from the protagonist, thus making the Streaking Diversion inaccessible.
  • and all streaking NPCs have been covered with underwear. The changes also apply to all platforms.
• Human shields have been removed from the game, as in the German version.
  • This makes the mission Bank Error in Your Favor play differently: Jessica is recruited as a temporary Homie rather than being used as a human shield to open up the safe.
• The "Back for Seconds..." cutscene is cut short, ending after the protagonist chops Mr. Sunshine's head with the knife, due to decapitation being prohibited in the CERO.

References#