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Unused dialogue for an early version of the quest:

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Camp Golf

O'Hanrahan#

Dialogue exists in this build for a speech check with O'Hanrahan. In the final, O'Hanrahan's route involves passing speech checks with the other Misfits in order to convince them to work together. As O'Hanarahan assigns this task to the player, he himself does not have a speech check. At this point in development, O'Hanrahan did not have his own route; and the task to convince the Misfits to work together was assigned by Mags instead:

After this, O'hanrahan would agree to work with the squad:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

A big strong guy like you should protect people. Sometimes that means fighting.

O'Hanrahan

I guess maybe you're right. Okay. I'll try.

00104F50

A number of unused topics to report back on the player's success or failure. While it doesn't look like O'Hanrahan had his own route yet, it seems the player could at least discuss either improving or cheating with him:

  • OHanrahanFakeUp 1-3
  • OHanrahanShapeup 1-3

Razz#

Like O'Hanrahan, Razz has a number of unused of topics to report back on the player's progress with having the mission cancelled:

  • RazzFakeUp 1-3
  • RazzShapeUp 1-3

Mags#

Mags has a sizeable number of unused voice lines that allude to the early version of the quest. By the time of this build, however, it seems the early version of this quest was abandoned and was actively being changed to the final version; for this reason many voice lines related to the early scenario have already been removed. Fortunately, some of these missing voice lines have been preserved in memory dumps from earlier builds of the game, and these dialogue responses can be used to understand how the early version of the quest would have proceeded.

This is the dialogue used to start Mags' route of the quest, the responses are from a January the 4th build:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Build

Player

Sgt. McCredie's planning to send your squad into a death trap.

Mags

-

N/A

Player

At a guess, because he's an authoritarian sadist

Mags

Tell me about it. What the hell are we gonna do?

01058F1

January 4th

Player

He seems to think it will force you to work together.

Mags

Dammit! I can't believe this. I'm not going to die for these clowns!

001058F8

January 4th

At this point in development, the player would need to convince the Misfits to work together before they could attempt the rifle and grenade range courses. These voice lines are from a build dated January the 4th.

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Build

Player

Meet me at the shooting range, I'll help the squad get up to snuff.

Mags

Maybe you do know your way around a gun - but the squad won't listen to me.

001058F6

January 4th

Mags

Poindexter's an arrogant prick, Razz doesn't respect anybody who wasn't a gangbanger, and O'Hanrahan won't even pick up a rifle. They're hopeless.

001058F6

January 4th

Player

I'll talk to them.

Mags

Okay, well, good luck with that.

001058F9

April 17th

Player

Yes. I think they'll work together better now.

Mags

Great! I'll get everybody out to the shooting range.

001058FD

January 4th

Mags' speech check about leadership still exists in this version of the build, and could be passed as an alternative to speaking with the other Misfits individually:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Build

Player

Meet me at the shooting range, I'll help the squad get up to snuff.

Mags

Maybe you do know your way around a gun. Ok, I think I can convince the rest of the squad, lets do this.

001058FD

January 4th

The player could also discuss Poindexter's route with Mags as well:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

Don't panic, I can help with this.

Mags

You can? How are you going to do that?

001058FB

Player

Easy. I'm going to cheat.

Mags

Seriously? I don't even know how you'd do that. Maybe talk to Poindexter.

00105902

These lines are for reporting back, unfortunately all seem to lack responses:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

Afraid not. I think maybe it would be easier to just cheat.

Player

So, did you get your report back from the "shooting practice?

Player

I think you'll find your orders have mysteriously changed.

Player

Yeah, I pretty much mean I'll help you cheat.

This dialogue seems to be for introducing the cut task where the player would delete the Misfits' mission orders:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

I've got bad news - it looks like McCredie's still planning to send you out.

Player

Are you sure there's nothing I can do to help?

Mags

I doubt it. Poindexter might have an idea for some kind of last-minute scheme. You should talk to him.

00107754

Some miscellaneous dialogue recovered from this build related to the cut scenario:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

I don't, sorry.

Mags

Oh, okay. Just thought I'd ask.

0010849B

Player

Still working on it, but I wanted to ask you something else.

Mags

What is it?

001058F0

Player

Well, tough luck. I tried. Enjoy dying.

Mags

Yeah, great. Thanks.

001058F4

Player

Yeah, you're screwed. Look, I've got some questions.

Mags

What?

001058F3

An unused skill check of sorts for Mags. In the final, the player needs to pass the rifle range to proceed onto the grenade course. In this version of the quest, the player could've passed a skill check to move onto the grenade course if they failed the rifle range:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

Don't worry, I'm *way* better with grenades than I am with guns.

Mags

Okay, if you say so, Hell, it's not like we've got a lot to lose here.

00106D6F

Player

Guns might not be my forte, but I've got a knack for bombs. Trust me.

Player

No, I'm serious. I'll help you improve on the grenade course.

Some unused player lines. Here the player would suggest deserting. For the other dialogue on this page, responses existed at one point, but have not been recovered. For this dialogue specifically, responses don't seem to have ever been implemented:

Speaker

Dialogue

Player

Then you might want to think about deserting. Just a thought.

Player

You could desert.

Another unused player line for reporting back:

Speaker

Dialogue

Player

Good news - Sgt. McCredie's canceled the combat patrol.

Unused topics, with no responses nor player prompt:

  • MagsFakeUp 1-3

Poindexter#

A dialogue exchange where Poindexter refers to a cache at Camp Golf placed in case of an emergency. This would've followed the first line included below, but a response to that line has not been recovered, meaning it's not known what would've prompted Poindexter to share this information with the player:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

Anything to share about Camp Golf?

Poindexter

-

00104F4E

Player

What are you talking about?

Poindexter

In case of a surprise attack, the commander buried a huge cache of weapons. Power armor, explosives, you name it go look around, you'll find it.

00104F40

This is the dialogue that would've originally been used to start his route of the quest. Interestingly his dialogue is identical to the final game; the developers simply altered the player lines to mask the original context of the quest:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

Sgt. McCredie is sending your squad on a suicide mission if you don't shape up.

Poindexter

That seems highly illogical. What reason would he have foredoing that?

001058FC

Player

He thinks it will get you to act like soldiers.

Poindexter

This is an unexpected variable. Damn, I should have planned for this.

001058FE

Mags' route of the quest could be discussed with Poindexter as well:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

I can drill your squad on proper small-unit tactics and survival.

Poindexter

I see, I would suggest you talk to Mags about that. She's the most soldierly out of all of us.

001058FA

Player

I meant actually help you learn to throw grenades.

Poindexter

Oh, I see. As inefficient as that sounds, you should perhaps talk to mags about that.

00107756

Further dialogue to discuss legitimate improvements with Poindexter. A response for this has not been recovered, only a player line:

Speaker

Dialogue

Player

Based on your performance, McCredie's cancelled the mission.

The original dialogue to assign his task to the player. This version of the dialogue mentions only one terminal; it seems the other was for the cut stage of the quest to delete the squad's mission orders entirely:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

It occurs to me that I might cheat.

Poindexter

Hmm... an intriguing proposition. Company readiness reports are logged on the computer systems at the Resort.

001058F2

Poindexter

If you can hack into the system, you might be able to alter our records. Cleverly done!

001058F2

Player

I can help with that, too.

Poindexter

Ideal. The computer system containing the evaluation records is in a back office, at the resort. If you hack in, you can alter the scores.

0010774B

Player

I'm on it.

Poindexter

Excellent. I look forward to hearing of your success.

0010774E

This dialogue is for introducing the unused stage of the quest where the player deletes the mission orders:

Speaker

Dialogue

Form ID

Player

I'll do it. How hard can it be?

Poindexter

Possibly harder than you think. This is a separate system from the evaluation scoring system, and it's much more heavily secured.

00107749

Player

Guess I won't get caught, then.

Poindexter

That would be advisable.

00107762

Player

Too risky for me - you're on your own.

Poindexter

I should have suspected you'd cut and run from the difficult tasks. Very well, on the very slim chance we survive, I will speak to you later.

0010774A

Some unused player only lines:

Speaker

Dialogue

Player

Mags said you might know how to alter your squad's readiness reports.

Player

I'm qafraid McCredie hasn't canceled that mission yet.

Player

Do you think the rifle range results will get McCredie off your back?

Player

Nobody suspected anything - you're in the clear.

Unused topics, with no responses nor player prompt:

  • PoindexterShapeUp 1-3

Sgt McCredie#

This was the original dialogue used to start the quest, it was recovered from Fallout_Debug.xex:

Sample

Filename

Dialogue

Player

It sounds like you've got a plan.

McCredie

Let's just say their next combat patrol might be a *lot* hotter than they expect if I don't see some improvement soon.

00105904

After speaking with the Misfits and attempting either the improvement or cheating routes, the player could return to McCredie in an attempt to get the mission cancelled:

Sample

Filename

Dialogue

Player

Maybe you should rethink that patrol. It'd be a shame to waste that potential.

McCredie

I suppose you've got a good point. I'll cancel the combat patrol. See, if we can't motivate them to keep on improving.

0010774C

Player

Maybe you should rethink that patrol. It'd be a shame to waste that potential.

McCredie

I don't think so it's not anywhere near enough improvement, no, they're going out, and they're coming back soldiers. Or not at all.

0010774D

Player

So, they're not getting sent off on a sure to be suicidal patrol, then?

McCredie

At this point, that would be a waste of a fine bunch of soldiers. No, I'll be holding onto them. What can I do for you?

00107755

Player

So, you're still planning on sending them out?

McCredie

That's right. They're coming back as soldiers or not at all.

00107757

Dialogue for McCredie to react to the Misfits' evaluation course attempts. These are greetings, so don't have accompanying player lines:

Speaker

Dialogue

File

Conditions

McCredie

Looks like the rifle range test results were a fluke. The misfits are back to their old screw ups. I guess they're showing a little promise, at least.

0010775f

Rifle Range +, Grenade Range -

McCredie

After that piss poor performance on the shooting range the misfits are finally showing some promise.

00107760

Rifle Range -, Grenade Range +

McCredie

I have to say I'm impressed, the misfits have really turned it around. Maybe that's your doing, maybe not. Either way, I'm glad to see it.

0010775e

Rifle Range +, Grenade Range +

It's not known under what conditions the following would trigger, but it's possible the first is for a poor shooting range performance with the grenade course not yet attempted, while the later is for a poor result on both:

Sample

Filename

Dialogue

McCredie

Hoo boy, you should *see* the results from the Misfits on their shooting range drills. I've seen blind brahmin shoot better.

001068c4

McCredie

God damn, these test results are a joke. That's it, if the misfits aren't going to take their training seriously they're going to learn the hard way.

00107761

A player only line found only in Fallout_Release_Beta.xex22. A response has not yet been found:

Sample

Filename

Dialogue

Player

I tried to help your soldiers improve, but it's too much work. Send them on their suicide mission.