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Development Oversights

This is a sub-page of Saints Row (2006).

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  • Misplaced "window door" texture at the Do it Up hair salon in Barrio and on the sign near Chinatown, both using "b03_door02_me".
  • Door error at Friendly Fire in Tidal Spring and The Big Picture.
  • Camera error at customization in Price Mansion.
  • Doors on the outside and but not on the inside error at The Big Picture and Peep This cinemas.
  • Misplaced King's Mag in "All The King's Men" mission and cutscene.
  • Book covers in King Penthouse using "open book" graphics.
  • LOD Pedestrian inconsistencies; WM Westside Roller
  • Incorrectly-mapped graphics:
    • Road outside of On Thin Ice in Tidal Spring.
    • Badly-mapped building around the corner from Forgive and Forget in the Docks.
    • Book covers in King Penthouse using "open book" graphics.
    • The "door Windows" at Do It Up in Barrio.
  • "Glowing Neon Steel" sign at Sloppy Seconds in Barrio District.
  • Budweiser "B" logo on the neon at Brown Baggers stores.
  • Bong Model length inconsistency.
  • Cinema Name errors (eg. Max Visions and Peep This actually being called The Big Picture in menus)

Because Saints Row was a rather large-scale project for Volition, it's no surprise that there are a few errors present;

Textures#

Freckle Bitch's Logo Variants#

Sign Texture (f38_sign_pl)

Billboard Texture (Cropped)

Ultor Dome Texture

Three variants of the Freckle Bitch's logo exist throughout the game. The texture on the sign and menu (f38_sign_pl) shows the girl with pigtails, freckles and blush on her face, while all the other textures have her with long hair and earrings without freckles on her face. This was likely changed so the mascot would resemble Wendy's less to avoid any legal issues.

A third graphic uses the modified design, but erroneously spelt as "Freckle Bitches" is used during the Demolition Derby Activity at the Ultor Dome and in the texture graphic for the fries in the "Aisha's Dinner" cutscene...but was also mentioned in the GamePro November 2005 preview of the game, which was likely considered at one point.

Strangely enough, the oddity for the first and second graphic remain in Saints Row 2 while also the mascot's original design herself ended up becoming a pedestrian. The third graphic would be erroneously used again at the Rounds Square Shopping Center on the food court menu.

Missing Lit "Cold Drinks" Texture#

Cold Beer (liq_ddcooler01a_me
and cooler01beer_me)

Cold Drinks (cooler01drinks_me)

SR1_cooler01beer_me.pngSR1_liq_ddcooler01a_me.png

Throughout the branches of Brown Baggers, there are coolers that either say "Cold Drinks" or "Cold Beer". Only the Saint's Row (sr_chunk02_liquor) and (sr_chunk07_ls) Rebedaux branches use the "Cold Beer" textures (liq_ddcooler01a_me and cooler01beer_me), while everywhere else uses the "Cold Drinks" (cooler01drinks_me) texture. Oddly, there seems to be no "lit" variation of the "Cold Drinks" texture, nor it isn't shown that way in any coolers, likely being a last-minute change.

The "Cold Drinks" would be likely used more to not just apply to beer, but wines too.

Jacques Hennequet Tower Plaque Typo#

Plaque Texture (c01_sign01)

Reflection (c01_sign01spec, Enlarged)

It's with one L, bitch!

The specular reflection file (c01_sign01spec) for the existing Jacques Hennequet Tower Plaque graphic (c01_sign01spec)) found in chunk38 has a typo that spells Stilwater with two "L's" on the bottom sentence. It's likely a mistake as the "Stillwater" spelling didn't seem to last long in development according to prerelease builds.

Rim Jobs Billboard Error#

The billboard advertisement for Rim Jobs (billboard22_cb) has the logo erroneously say "Rim Job" instead, which is the earlier name for it.

Scrapped Hairstyle#

The Image As Designed billboard (billbord23_cb) has a hairstyle on the left that does not appear in the final.

Sorry, we don't do hairstyles! ....yet.

Train Station Stilwater Map#

The train stations located in Encanto and Filmore has a slightly early layout of Stilwater with the bigger top-left island on the eltrainst04_me graphic.

Rebedaux Earlier Name#

The highway signs en route from the Docks districts near Pilsen mistakenly uses an earlier name for Rebedaux, where it was originally called Lasalle.

The marker model for saving the game has the near-finalized logo of Saints Row, notably with a lower grey part rather than a grey line going through.

Audio#

Drug Trafficking Vehicle Damage Voice Clips#

In Drug Trafficking, the clients will make comments about the car being damaged at different levels, where some of the voice clips make references to it being their own car. Because other vehicles can be used, the following quotes will be semi-erroneously play. This is because that, along with the unused VEHDIE voice clips there was likely a secondary objective of keeping the vehicle unscathed.

Filename

Character

Audio

Transcript (Transcribed)

VOC_TOBIAS_DRUG_VEH75_4

Tobias

Nothin' else better happened to my car...

MARVIN_DRUG_VEH25_8

Marvin

Can you do me a favor and keep my car from blowing up?!

MARVIN_DRUG_VEH75_5

Marvin

Hm, this baby's seen worse...

LAURA_DRUG_VEH25_2

Laura

I doubt my warranty can resist gang shootings...

LAURA_DRUG_VEH25_3

Laura

What will they think when I pick up the little league team in this...

LAURA_DRUG_VEH25_4

Laura

I don't know if they can even repair it at this point...

LAURA_DRUG_VEH25_6

Laura

Maybe I could tell my husband that I was hit in the parking lot...

LAURA_DRUG_VEH50_1

Laura

This is an import!

LAURA_DRUG_VEH50_7

Laura

I hope the mechanic can fix this...

LAURA_DRUG_VEH75_3

Laura

I just bought this car, y'know?

LAURA_DRUG_VEH75_4

Laura

Do you know how much bodywork costs these days?

LAURA_DRUG_VEH75_5

Laura

Does insurance cover this?

AURA_DRUG_VEH75_9

Laura

Between my kids, this thing's seen worse.

Song Error#

One of the songs, Girl by Stereophonics actually plays audio of the song Lolita by the same artist. All instances of the song is referred to as the wrong title, even in the following radio announcements of The Faction 98.8 FM;

Filename

Audio

Dialogue (Transcribed)

998FAC_A_GIRL_IN1

Stilwater's alternative rock. Two minutes of pure Welsh ear candy now, it's Stereophonics with Girl on The Faction 98.8.

998FAC_A_GIRL_IN2

From the album Language. Sex. Violence. Other?, Girl from Stereophonics on The Faction 98.8.

998FAC_A_GIRL_OUT1

Yes, alright you beat it out of me! I do wanna fly, dammit! Stereophonics with Girl on The Faction 98.8.

998FAC_A_GIRL_OUT2

Oh man, my throat hurts just listening to that! I mean, Callie Jones shredding his vocal chords for your pleasure? Ugh, Girl from Sterophonics on The Faction 98.8.

998FAC_A_GIRL_REQ1

Here you go, enjoy, it's Sterophonics with Girl on The Faction 98.8.

998FAC_A_GIRL_REQ2

It's what I live for, Girl by Stereophonics on The Faction 98.8.

998FAC_A_GIRL_RESPONSE_1

Caller: Hey Kat, how many albums does Stereophonics have out?
Kat: Y'know, I just went online and I saw that there's like, forty-seven, can you believe it?!
Caller: Wow like, two for every year I've been alive?
Kat: What are you, 23 or 24?
Caller: 23 and a half!
Kat: Okay dude, I've got a tip for you; after you've turn 11, you really should drop the half. It's Girl from Stereophonics on The Faction 98.8.

998FAC_A_GIRL_RESPONSE2

Caller: Hey I'm done here at Lik-A-Chik working the counter!
Kat: No way, sing the Lik-A-Chik jingle for me!
Caller: Lik-A-Chik Chicken! Lik-A-Chick Chicken! Lik-A-Chick Chicken! Now... bawk bawk! Eat me!
Kat: Hahah, now that is awesome! Do guys ask you to do that all the time?
Caller: No, they usually want free chicken.
Kat: You have my condolences. Stereophonics with Girl on The Faction 98.8.

Nob Hill Early Name#

Two of the newscasts that play during the 3rd Street Vice Kings mission errenously refer to Nob Hill as "Glenview Hills", which was an earlier name. It's likely that the name was changed late in development.

Filename

Audio

Dialogue

NEWS_VK_HERD_1

I'm Jack Armstrong in the newsroom. This just in from the news desk: Glenview Hills seems to be the target of gangland warfare today as elements from the hoodlum gang known as Vice Kings are rampaging through the district as we speak. Reports indicate that everything is fair game and nothing is safe; storefronts smashed and firebombed, vehicles being destroyed, pedestrian traffic getting caught up in the violence - do not, repeat, do not, enter this area until the police have had a chance to quell the uprising. Repeating: Glenview Hills is under attack by the Vice King [sic] gang. If you are there now and are hearing this report, take appropriate safety measures. We will have a live report from Flying Officer Mike McCabe with the Stilwater Police Department in our Eye-in-the-Sky Chopper 2 as soon as he can get airborne. And we will keep an eye on this developing story here in the newsroom. I'm Jack Armstrong.

NEWS_VK_HERD_2

Jack Armstrong: "I'm Jack Armstrong in the newsroom. We now have more details on the massive attacks in Glenview Hills today; as promised, Flying Officer Mike McCabe of the Stilwater Police Department is now in our Eye-in-the-Sky Chopper 2. What is the situation like now, officer Mike?"
Mike McCabe: "Chaos, Jack, pure chaos. I'm circling over Glenview Hills as we speak, and the sight of burned-out cars, smashed storefront windows, dead bodies waiting to be toe-tagged - although it's hard to tell the bodies from the mannequins yanked from the fashion stores, Jack - it's like a warzone. While I am privy to some information given to us at the station on a need-to-know basis, we still are not quite sure what the flashpoint was for the Vice Kings' rampage. Now we do know that the Glenview Hills area is somewhat back to normal as the cleanup begins, Jack."
Jack Armstrong: "Any word on when the shops will be back open for business, officer Mike?"
Mike McCabe: "Well, er... we're not sure, Jack. There's a lot of work to be done and shopkeepers and citizens alike here are keeping an eye out for any further activity as they sweep away the mess and try to get back to living their lives. In the Eye-in-the-Sky Chopper 2, this is Officer Mike McCabe. Jack."
Jack Armstrong: "Flying Officer Mike McCabe of the Stilwater Police Department over Glenview Hills. We'll bring you details on this story as they happen. In the newsroom, I'm Jack Armstrong."

Overworld#

Misplaced Sounds#

In the Barrio District, there are two sound emitters used outside of a Vinyos y Licores building located in Cecil Park across from around the District's Stronghold. It is called AMB_INT_MZK_HAIR_BR, implying it was supposed to be used inside the Do It Up Hair Salon in Southern Cross and AMB_INT_MZK_PAWNSHOP_BR, implying it was intended for a cut pawn shop interior related to the Theft Activity. The fact it's labelled as an interior sound and sounds like it, is also rather jarring.

Out-of-Range Store Owner Dialogue#

Due to the Hapton Hotel near Wardill Airport being treated entirely like a "store" rather than the On Thin Ice section, the following STOREOWNER_GREET and STOREOWNER_FARE voice clips aren't normally heard for the HFBIZ character due to being too far out of the player's range.

On a similar note, the BFBIZ store owner of the Image As Designed located in Hunstersfield doesn't have any voice clips, but they're all used due to pedestrian being the exact same in the Union Square branch.

Filename

Character

Audio

Transcript (Transcribed)

HFBIZ_SPE_STOREOWNGREET_1

HFBIZ

Welcome...feel free to buy anything you see.

HFBIZ_SPE_STOREOWNGREET_2

HFBIZ

Welcome to On Thin Ice. Are you certain you weren't looking for the pawn shop?

HFBIZ_SPE_STOREOWNGREET_3

HFBIZ

We have the best selection of jewellery in Stilwater.

HFBIZ_SPE_STOREOWNGREET_4

HFBIZ

Greetings, can I help you?

HFBIZ_SPE_STOREOWNGREET_5

HFBIZ

We get paid on commission here, so don't waste my time.

HFBIZ_SPE_STOREOWNGREET_6

HFBIZ

You won't find a better selection, anywhere!

HFBIZ_SPE_STOREOWNFARE_1

HFBIZ

Bye now.

HFBIZ_SPE_STOREOWNFARE_2

HFBIZ

So sorry you couldn't find anything you could afford...

Missions#

Subtitle Errors#

Aside from the typos, in missions there are lines of dialogue that do not match up with the soundfiles.

Mission

Filename

Audio

On-screen Subtitles

Actual audio

Green With Envy

VOC_Tanya_VK5CUT4

Don't you fucking touch--

Don't you fu-

The King And I

VOC_KING_VK8CHATTER_6

Your easy to talk to, you know that? I don't gotta worry about you interrupting me or any of that shit...

You're easy to talk to, you know that? I don't gotta worry about you interrupting me or any of that bullshit...

All the King's Men

VOC_STEFAN_VK9CUT5_1

Who do you think you are, barging into Stefan's boutique...

Who do you think you are, barging into Stefan's boutique? Go away...

All the King's Men

VOC_STEFAN_VK9BREAKS_1

OKOKOKOK! The code is 3131, please don't hurt Stefan!

OKOKOKOKOK! The code is 3131, please don't hurt Stefan!

Text Errors#

Donnie Name Typos#

In the mission recap for Guardian Angel (MSN_WR03_STORY), Donnie is spelled as "Donny". This was fixed in other language localizations, except for the Japanese version,

Lin's plans for the Rollerz were going well, but she wanted things to go a little faster.  She asked you to raid the Rollerz' chop shop, leaving Donny, the Rollerz' top mechanic, unharmed.  Just when Donny thought you were about to finish him off, Lin came in and pretended to rescue him.  She gained some trust with the Rollerz, and you got to shoot their shop to pieces.  Not a bad day.

The same typo also appears in the Just a Girl cutscene in the French translation (VOC_AMWR_WR1CUT1_2).

French

English

VOC_AMWR_WR1CUT1_2=C'est Donny qui a fait l'aileron?
VOC_AMWR_WR1CUT1_2=The spoiler looks like Donnie's work.

In a similar instance, Donnie's name in Japanese is translated as ダニー (danii) rather than ドニー (donii), making it sound like "Danny" instead. They are present in the MSN_RACETRACK_STRONGHOLD_STORE_STORY and UNL_WR09_5 strings, where the latter is unused.

English

Japanese

Using her connection with Donnie, Lin was able to find the storage garage where the Rollerz keep several of their high performance cars.  Their location revealed, you had little trouble destroying all of the Rollerz vehicles while they were safely tucked away in the garage.
リンは、 ダニー とのコネを 利用して、 ロー ラー ズが高性能\n車を隠し持 っている倉 庫を見つ け出した。 倉庫の所在 地が\n判明 すれば、 ロー ラー ズが大事に 保管してい た車を\n残ら ず破壊する のに問題 はない。

English

Japanese

UNL_WR09_5=Donnie's Car
UNL_DESC_WR09_5=You have unlocked Donnie's car.
UNL_WR09_5=ダニーの車
UNL_DESC_WR09_5=ダニーの車のロックを解除した。

Miscellaneous#

Liquor Store Name Error#

The Liquor Store in Copperton, is referred to as a Brown Baggers on the map despite not carrying that on the signage.

Other#

  • The "MSN_LC09_GOTO_MANSION" string in the "House Call" mission doesn't have the location marked in blue unlike other strings.
  • The voice clips for the "BMATHL" character are erroneously duped as "ATHL", but all of them sound exactly the same. The latter name could possibly be an earlier name to identify NPC names.