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Demoted Main Quests#
According to the quest-naming scheme in the document "W3 Quest Asset List", the following sidequests were originally part of the main questline:
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Internal Name |
Description |
|---|---|---|---|---|
q106 |
Velen |
A Towerful of Mice |
tower |
Uncover the tragic tale of the haunted tower at Fyke Isle. |
q107 |
Velen |
Return to Crookback Bog |
swamps |
Return to the swamps with Tamara and the Baron to help Anna. |
q108 |
Velen |
Forefathers' Eve |
eve |
Assist the Pellar in holding the Forefathers' Eve ceremony on Fyke Isle. |
q109 |
Velen |
For the Advancement of Learning |
wrapup |
Confront Keira at Fyke Isle regarding the mage Alexander's notes. |
q202 |
Skellige |
The Lord of Undvik |
giant |
Locate Hjalmar and aid him in slaying the Ice Giant. |
q206 |
Skellige |
King's Gambit |
berserkers |
Help Cerys or Hjalmar uncover the truth behind the bear attack at the Kaer Trolde feast. |
q208 |
Skellige |
Coronation |
heroesmead |
Attend the coronation of the new ruler of Skellige. |
q308 |
Novigrad |
Carnal Sins |
psycho |
Solve the mystery behind the serial killer stalking Novigrad's citizens. |
q309 |
Novigrad |
Now or Never |
casablanca |
Escort Triss and the mages out of Novigrad. Romance may be in the air. |
Deleted Main Quests#
According to the documents W3 Quest Asset List and Prima Games Official TW3 Guide, the following quests were deleted from the main questline:
q204 - thralls#
thralls was to be a Skellige quest involving a ritual in the holy grove. It would have featured Ermion (called Mousesack), Holgar, Hjord, Yennefer, and a deleted character known as Hvitr, a mildly mentally disabled albino boy.
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Internal Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
q204 |
Skellige |
- |
thralls |
|
Assets#
Tab Submatrix in the W3 Locations production list document requests the following assets for this deleted quest:
• Holy Grove
• Holy Grove decorations
Debugging#
Tab Q204 in the W3 ALPHA BUGS document has the following debugging notes on this deleted quest:
DATE |
BUG |
Priorytet |
TEAM |
TYPE |
#TTP |
Comment |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
7-19-2013 |
wrong interaction button displayed (A instead of B) |
P2 |
Gameplay |
7766 |
fixed already |
|
7-19-2013 |
Mousesack entity to change - there's a druid entity to be used |
P3 |
Characters |
7853 |
||
7-19-2013 |
before ritual - no dialogue with Holgar, Hjord |
P2 |
Story |
7858 |
||
7-19-2013 |
Crash dialogue to be kaszetetowy |
P3 |
Quest |
mikolaj szwed needs to determine this |
||
7-19-2013 |
add cooldown to chats before ritual |
P3 |
Quest |
|||
7-19-2013 |
Add some dialogue/chat for Yen |
P3 |
Quest |
|||
7-19-2013 |
No Hvitr before ritual |
P2 |
Quest |
#7871 |
||
7-19-2013 |
When we talk second time to Mousesack (under tree) dialogue should be different |
P3 |
Story |
mikolaj szwed needed for that |
||
7-19-2013 |
final version of cutscene to be talked through |
remark |
||||
7-19-2013 |
it's not clear what happened after cutscene, there's no sum up |
remark |
||||
7-19-2013 |
"pomogę wam [I will help you]" line is not necessary |
P3 |
Story |
#7902 |
||
7-19-2013 |
"Tak. Ciri jest naszą córką [Yes. Ciri is our daughter]" should be said by Yen, because she doesn't say anything in this dialogue |
P3 |
Story |
#7898 |
||
7-19-2013 |
Yen didin't hear what Hvitr said and it's not believeable (she was distracted or Hvitr whispered that) |
P3 |
Story |
|||
7-19-2013 |
choices in q204_02_hvitr after ritual - choices to be changed, they are too obvious (e.g. "Zgadzam się [I agree]/nie zgadzam [I disagree]") - we don't know what Geralt will say, it should be just hinted |
P3 |
Story |
#7892 |
||
7-19-2013 |
After "Manipulujesz ludźmi [Manipulating people]" two bottom choices don't have X (to exit) |
P3 |
Story |
#7890 |
||
7-19-2013 |
"posłuchaj [listen]..." choice is not clear |
P3 |
Story |
#7886 |
||
7-19-2013 |
there are no chats after ritual |
P3 |
Quest |
seems to be already fixed. Mikolaj szwed must determine |
||
Dialog with hvitr starts right after ritual - it would be better i fou could talk on interaction with hvitr ? |
||||||
9-3-2013 |
Myszowór [Mousesack] did not spawn at the beginning of the probe. |
q207 - Unknown#
q207 was to be a Skellige quest. Little else is known about it.
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Internal Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
q207 |
Skellige |
- |
- |
|
Assets#
Tab Beta backlog in the W3 Locations production list document reveals that it would have involved Yennefer's room, a deleted location in Crach Castle (Kaer Trolde).
q209 - Unknown#
q209 was likely to have been a Skellige quest. Little else is known about it.
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Internal Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
(q209) |
Skellige? |
- |
- |
|
q211 - canaris_v2#
canaris_v2 was to be a Skellige quest involving a siege on Kaer Trolde, as well as a visit to Tor Gvalch'ca, the elven tower on Undvik. It would have featured the Wild Hunt, Avallac'h, Caranthir, Eredin, and an unknown character named Klucznik.
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Internal Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
q211 |
Skellige |
- |
canaris_v2 |
|
Assets#
The Blockouts document requests the following assets for this deleted quest:
• Nalfgar - ship deck & all the shit
• Small island with a small cave for Avallac'h
Debugging#
Tab Q211 in the W3 ALPHA BUGS document has the following debugging notes on this deleted quest:
DATE |
BUG |
Priorytet |
TEAM |
TYPE |
#TTP |
Comment |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
8-2-2013 |
change placeholder NPC appearances to wild hunt riders |
P3 |
Quest |
8719 |
||
8-2-2013 |
maybe wild hunt riders should talk in old-language (so there's only subtitles) ?? |
Idea |
||||
8-2-2013 |
we came back to the same choice hub after choosing first option and we have to say something else to progress - it shouldn't work like that |
P2 |
Story |
|||
8-2-2013 |
"I jak? Wierzysz mi już? [So? Do you believe me now?]" choice has no sense (in previous line he said that he doesn't believe us) |
P2 |
Story |
|||
8-2-2013 |
no transition between dialogue and teleport to the cave |
P2 |
Quest |
8720 |
||
8-2-2013 |
elemental fireball blocks us - we can't move |
P1 |
Gameplay |
8744 |
||
8-2-2013 |
"Teraz mi ufasz? [Do you trust me now?]" - another time to ask that question - it's too much |
P3 |
Story |
|||
8-2-2013 |
"Daj mi porozmawiać z tym tchórzem [Let me talk to this coward]" choice hub has one option (two options before were already chosen) |
P3 |
Story |
|||
8-2-2013 |
Generalna uwaga - nie ma klimatu zagrożenia w tych dialogach, brak odczucia, że jest się z zagrożeniu zdekonspiorwania [General note - there is no feeling of danger in these dialogues, no feeling that there is threat of deconspiriaton[sic]] (behind enemy lines) |
P2 |
Remark |
|||
8-2-2013 |
Canaris or Caranthir? - be consistent |
Story/Quest/Characters |
8721 |
|||
8-2-2013 |
When Geralt talks to Avallch Canaris doesn't exit the dialogue |
P2 |
Quest |
8722 |
||
8-2-2013 |
short to do "znajdz wlasciwe miejsce [find the right place]..." is not clear |
P2 |
Quest |
|||
8-2-2013 |
choice hub "Nie. Nie mówił; Rzeczywiście szukał and Avallach chciał zabić [No. He didn't say; Indeed he sought and Avallach wanted to kill]" - we don't know what to choose, ale options are wrong |
P2 |
Story |
|||
8-2-2013 |
do choices have any effect? because we feel that we just talk and its all for nothing |
P2 |
Story |
Remark |
||
8-2-2013 |
no trasition before kaer trolde siege (need cutscene?) |
P2 |
Quest |
8723 |
||
8-2-2013 |
kaer trolde guards don't attack us, why? |
P2 |
Quest |
|||
8-2-2013 |
placeholder cutscene with eredin and klucznik - where did they came from? |
Question |
||||
8-2-2013 |
dialog po walce - bez emocji, mydło, nudny, źle skonstruowane choice huby [dialogue after the battle - without emotion, soap, boring, poorly constructed hub choices] |
Remark |
||||
8-2-2013 |
dialoge is not consistent - first we're too injured too fight and in the next choice we're ready |
P2 |
Story |
|||
8-2-2013 |
after dialogue after fight we end up as a replacer in crach castle |
P2 |
Quest |
8724 |
||
8-2-2013 |
wooden gate should be destroyed when we get to Undvik |
P2 |
Quest/Location |
8725 |
||
8-2-2013 |
zero gameplay when we go to the tower - nothing happens |
P2 |
Quest |
8726 |
||
8-2-2013 |
no drakkar in front of the island - it seems that hunt is not there |
P2 |
Location/Quest |
8727 |
||
8-2-2013 |
dialogue between eredin and canaris - what for? how we listen to it? |
|||||
8-2-2013 |
what happened after the dialogue in front of the tower, why we're in some other place? |
|||||
8-2-2013 |
||||||
8-2-2013 |
||||||
8-2-2013 |
q306 - Unknown#
|
To do: |
q306 was to be a Novigrad quest. Little else is known about it.
Tab Beta backlog in the W3 Locations production list document reveals that it would have taken place, at least in part, in the Golden Sturgeon Inn, the Kingfisher Inn and basement, the Passiflora, the Rosemary and Thyme, and a location called "Messengers Inn" that would have been situated in Novigrad's poor district.
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Internal Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
q306 |
Novigrad |
- |
- |
|
Assets#
The Blockouts document requests the following assets for this deleted quest:
• Novigrad - Golden Sturgeon inn interior
q307 - Unknown#
q307 was to be a Novigrad quest involving breaking Dandelion out of his imprisonment in the dungeons on Temple Isle.
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Internal Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
q307 |
Novigrad |
- |
- |
|
Assets#
Tab Beta backlog in the W3 Locations production list document reveals that it would have taken place, at least in part, in Novigrad's sewers, as well as the Temple of the Eternal Fire.
The Blockouts document requests the following assets for this deleted quest:
• Novigrad - Old warehouse outside Novigrad
• Novigrad - House with underpassage interior
• Novigrad - Paths from temple island with gates that can be closed
• Novigrad - Square before temple
• Novigrad - House with entrance to temple dungeons
• Novigrad - Temple dungeons with path to outside (to the beach)
• Novigrad - Beach on temple island
• Novigrad - Abandoned hut outside of Novigrad
q312 - hate_fruit#
|
|
To do: |
q312 was a Novigrad quest. Little else is known about it.
Tab Beta backlog in the W3 Locations production list document reveals that it would have taken place, at least in part, at the Dawn Estate by the Seven Cats Inn.
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Internal Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
q312 |
Novigrad |
- |
hate_fruit |
|
Altered Main Quests#
q501 - On Thin Ice#
In the final game, during the quest On Thin Ice, Geralt and his allies repel the Wild Hunt's naval assault on Undvik.
However, according to the document W3 Locations production list, q501 would have originally seen the Wild Hunt attack Novigrad.
q502 - Tedd Deireadh, The Final Age#
In the final game, during the quest Tedd Deireadh, The Final Age, Geralt races to the tower of Tor Gvalch'ca on Undvik after hearing from Eredin that Avallac'h is a traitor bent upon using Ciri for his own ends. Upon arrival, he finds out from Avallac'h and Ciri that his foe was lying, and Ciri enters the tower alone to defeat the White Frost.
However, according to the document W3 Locations production list, q502 would have originally seen Geralt enter Tor Gvalch'ca and battle a boss.
q504 - Something Ends, Something Begins II#
In the final game, during the quest Ending - Ciri Becomes Empress, Geralt meets up with Ciri in a wintry White Orchard, where the two battle a Forktail and go fishing.
However, according to the document W3 Locations production list, q504 would have originally featured the lair of a Korred, a removed non-contract monster.
Deleted Sidequests#
According to the quest-naming scheme in the document W3 Quest Asset List, the following sidequests were originally part of the main questline:
sq103 - KOLOVRAT#
sq103 was to be a Velen sidequest that would have centred around the village of Midcotts (Midcopse). Little else is known about it.
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Sheet Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
sq103 |
Velen |
KOLOVRAT |
|
Assets#
The Submatrix_SQ tab of the W3 Locations production list document lists the following assets for this deleted quest:
• NML - Midcotts, hut of an old woman
• NML - Midcotts, barn
• NML - Midcotts, nearby graveyard
• NML - Midcotts, Soltys' house
• Kolovrat
• Body of an old woman
The W3 Characters production list - OUTDATED! document lists the following assets for this deleted quest:
• Witch hunter
• Old woman
• Soltys of Midcotts
• Soltys' wife
• Old man (boy turned old)
• Wight
sq105 - FUGAS#
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Sheet Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
sq105 |
Velen |
FUGAS |
|
sq203 - STATEK WIDMO#
sq203 was to be a Skellige sidequest that would have taken place on Ard Skellig and Undvik. "STATEK WIDMO" translates to "ghost ship".
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Sheet Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
sq203 |
Skellige |
STATEK WIDMO [Ghost Ship] |
|
Assets#
The Submatrix_SQ tab of the W3 Locations production list document lists the following assets for this deleted quest:
• Ard Skellig - Room at the inn in the Kaer Trolde village
• Ard Skellig - Enidwen ruins (partially overground, mostly underground - hidden entrance to the ruins)
• Undvik - Elven tower exterior
• Ard Skellig - Kaer Trolde library w. Scribe's office
• Measuring device
• Ancient elven stuff (weapons, armors, jewelery)
• Lab equipment
The W3 Characters production list - OUTDATED! document lists the following assets for this deleted quest:
• Otto - Nilfgaardian noble
• Audun - Skellige noble (?)
sq206 - LATARNIA#
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Sheet Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
sq206 |
Skellige |
LATARNIA [Lighthouse] |
|
sq305 - SCOIATAEL#
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Sheet Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
sq305 |
Novigrad |
SCOIATAEL |
|
Assets#
The W3 Characters production list - OUTDATED! document lists the following assets for this deleted quest:
• Iorweth
• Isengrim
• Vernossiel - elf woman
• Gronostaj - elf man
• Yrlissa - elf woman (mature)
sq307 - HATE FRUIT#
Position#
Quest ID |
Location |
Final Quest Name |
Sheet Name |
Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
sq307 |
Novigrad |
HATE FRUIT |
|
Sidequest Changes#
According to the document "W3 Quest Asset List"...
- Some NPCs would be noticeably plagued, such as citizens of Velen and Nilfgaardian soldiers.