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Item Differences

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This is a sub-page of Proto:Chrono Trigger (SNES).

A whole mess of items in the prototype differ from their final counterparts. In many cases, the change was a simple stat tweak, but some items don't resemble what they'd later become at all.

Modified Items#

The following items have been changed in some form or another.

Weapons#

By and large, only Frog's weapons saw much in the way of major changes.

Weapon

Type

ATK (Proto)

ATK (Final)

Notes

Mop

Katana

+3

+1

WonderShot

Gun

+140

+250

BronzeEdge

Sword

+7

+6

Iron Sword

Sword

+11

+10

Masamune (1)

Sword

+53

+75

"Grandleon" in Japanese ver.

FlashBlade

Sword

+73

+90

Pearl Edge

Sword

+84

+105

Rune Blade

Sword

+98

+120

BraveSword

Sword

+112

+135

Masamune (2)

Sword

+125

+200

"Grandleon" in Japanese ver.

Notes:

  • The Demon Hit does not exist at this point in development. In its place is a 45 attack power weapon called "Soy Sword", which would have been won from Slash (whose name is "Soysau" in the Japanese version). This weapon was changed into Crono's Slasher in the final, very likely because the player had just gone through a long process to repair the Masamune.
  • There are seven "Fist" weapons for Ayla in the prototype. In the final, there are three Fists, the Iron Fist, and the BronzeFist, with the latter two Fists having been cut entirely.

Armor#

Nearly every piece of armor had its stats changed in the final, usually for the better. A few helmets were also tweaked.

Armor

Type

DEF (Proto)

DEF (Final)

Notes

Hide Tunic

Armor

+11

+5

Karate Gi

Armor

+13

+10

MaidenSuit

Armor

+16

+18

Iron Suit

Armor

+20

+25

Titan Vest

Armor

+22

+32

Gold Suit

Armor

+24

+39

Ruby Vest

Armor

+28

+45

Dark Mail

Armor

+31

+45

Mist Robe

Armor

+34

+54

Meso Mail

Armor

+35

+52

Lumin Robe

Armor

+38

+63

Flash Mail

Armor

+40

+64

Lode Vest

Armor

+45

+71

Aeon Suit

Armor

+50

+75

ZodiacCape

Armor

+55

+80

Nova Armor

Armor

+58

+82

PrismDress

Armor

+60

+99

Moon Armor

Armor

+60

+85

Ruby Armor

Armor

+45

+78

See notes

RavenArmor

Armor

+50

+76

Magus only

Gloom Cape

Armor

+60

+84

Magus only

Hide Cap

Helmet

+7

+3

BronzeHelm

Helmet

+9

+8

Notes:

  • The Ruby Armor did not yet exist in the prototype. In its place was the Death Mail, a much weaker suit of armor that could only be equipped by Magus.

Accessories and Items#

Accessories and items were largely untouched, although there are a few exceptions:

  • TyranoFang - This is the only noteworthy altered accessory, which took the place of the Third Eye in the prototype. The names are entirely different, but it's unknown as of yet whether its effect is the same or not.
  • Big Lapis - A consumable item that would later be replaced with the MegaElixir. This restored the entire team's HP to max, but did not affect MP.
  • Memory Mirror - A mysterious unusable item with a description that cryptically translates to "Exit", which suggests that this may have been intended to be used to either escape from dungeons or battles. It was replaced with the Lapis in the final.
  • Magical Handkerchief - Sharing the same slot as the Barrier in the final, the description of this item states that it should have the same effect, but it doesn't appear to do anything.
  • Protein - Same story as above. This seems to be an early, non-functional version of the Shield.
  • Green Dream - In the prototype, this key item occupied the same slot that the "C. Trigger" did in the final. It's unknown if this was meant to be the same item, but the final features an accessory with this very name. (Said accessory exists in the prototype, but is called "Angel Feather".)
  • Bike Parts - Seems like it was originally planned for you to repair the jet bike in Lab 32 before you could use it. This notion is supported by sprites that seem to correlate to the item name. This was replaced with the Race Log in the final.

Missing Items#

The following items are not in the prototype at all in any way, shape, or form (bold text denoting an item that is unused in final):

Bolt Sword

Slasher (Crono's version)

Swallow

Slasher 2

Rainbow

Siren

Graedus

Crisis Arm

Iron Fist

BronzeFist

White Vest

White Mail

Black Vest

Black Mail

Red Vest

Red Mail

Blue Vest

Blue Mail

Taban Vest

Safe Helm

Taban Helm

Sight Cap

Memory Cap

Time Hat

Vigil Hat

OzziePants

Haste Helm

R'bow Helm

MermaidCap

Gold Rock

Hero Medal

MuscleRing

Flea Vest

Power Seal

Magic Seal

Relic

SeraphSong

Sun Shades

PrismSpecs

Speed Tab

Ruby Knife

Yakra Key

Clone

Toma's Pop

2 Petals

2 Fangs

2 Horns

2 Feathers